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  1. Butterfree

    Racism & Other Prejudices

    That is not anywhere close to what I said. Of course you should dispute bad reasoning in any form, no matter the truth value of the conclusion. My point was that Shinji lover's argument wasn't bad reasoning. "I'm saying you didn't understand, which you don't if you disagree" is not an argument...
  2. Butterfree

    Racism & Other Prejudices

    It really isn't always that far off to say that if you disagree you didn't understand. I'd genuinely argue that if you don't believe in evolution, for instance, it's because you don't understand it, because once you do understand it it is obvious that evolution happens; it follows as logically...
  3. Butterfree

    Racism & Other Prejudices

    I really don't understand your reasoning. Shinji lover's argument isn't "white people used to live in cold places, therefore white people still live in cold places, therefore they survive better in cold places"; it's "white people evolved in cold places, therefore they're better adapted to...
  4. Butterfree

    Racism & Other Prejudices

    Do you not see any difference between the restriction of what you can express and the restriction of how you can express it? I'm not personally advocating jailing people for saying particular words - it's just wildly disproportionate retribution for an activity that's not that harmful, for one...
  5. Butterfree

    Racism & Other Prejudices

    Freedom of speech as a concept is more about the freedom to express any sentiment you wish than about the freedom to express it in whatever manner you wish. I don't really see a discord between banning racial slurs and freedom of speech, so long as people are still allowed to express all the...
  6. Butterfree

    Racism & Other Prejudices

    Arguing about words! "You used this word. However, I'm defining it to mean something which makes your statement untrue! Let's therefore ignore what you were actually trying to say." When Cirrus said white people "cannot experience racism", she was obviously talking about her definition of...
  7. Butterfree

    Racism & Other Prejudices

    The fact you can define a word to include both of them does not mean the two are meaningfully equivalent. The point here is that they aren't, because the racial prejudice experienced by white people comes in trivial, isolated incidents whereas that experienced by people of color affects all of...
  8. Butterfree

    Racism & Other Prejudices

    To clarify this (and this is an actual example on my "On Reasoning and Arguing" thread that nobody reads), you're working with two different definitions of racism. Volcarona is thinking of racism as prejudice against other races in general. However, this is not the definition of racism used in...
  9. Butterfree

    Racism & Other Prejudices

    I was getting at the fact this isn't much of a debate because nobody in their right mind would ever admit to disagreeing with you. Do you expect somebody to seriously walk in here saying "Well, I think racism is awesome"? The first line of my earlier post was sarcasm, to illustrate just how...
  10. Butterfree

    Racism & Other Prejudices

    I for one think we should totally be prejudiced against other races. (My point being that this thread is a little silly; who's seriously going to come into it going "WELL I'M ALL FOR RACISM"? It feels a little like the only reason you made it was to be able to go...
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